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		<title>By: Gordon Swaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Swaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks</description>
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		<title>By: Gordon Swaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Swaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks</description>
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		<title>By: Accredited Distance Learning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Accredited Distance Learning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a very useful article. I will be sure to send it around to my friends over at facebook and myspace.</description>
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		<title>By: Gavin Price</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no comment of the sex in schools. But on the revitalization of the education system. It works for prominent high schools who get better students or students who perform well on the day who rnt suitable for the institution. I went to a prominent male high school in kingston and it was my suggestion in a group discussion of the sixth form body that the school needs to integrate HEART programs into the school system along with CXC. At my alma mater students are streamed according to class by the time they end grade 9 so u have the science clases the busines the technical and the lacadasical class i call it where they do subjects just to say they did CXC one such subject is EDPM i feel its a waste of time i did CXC IT and looking on the course outline its completely useless i feel they should get the students assessed b HEART in there IT programs whether it be Data Operations, Web Designing, Office. Another is the wood work and metal work in complementing CXC get them accredited by HEART so if wen they finish high school if they don&#039;t get into college they can move on int he HEART program or work and support them selves. Isnt that better than doing this structure change that Mr Holness proposed that student have to leave school at 18 and they have a next level of education three is enough build on the strong foundations. Students have changed the system need to mature to deal with the ever maturing world.

OPEN YOUR EYES STOP WASTING LIMITED RESOURCES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no comment of the sex in schools. But on the revitalization of the education system. It works for prominent high schools who get better students or students who perform well on the day who rnt suitable for the institution. I went to a prominent male high school in kingston and it was my suggestion in a group discussion of the sixth form body that the school needs to integrate HEART programs into the school system along with CXC. At my alma mater students are streamed according to class by the time they end grade 9 so u have the science clases the busines the technical and the lacadasical class i call it where they do subjects just to say they did CXC one such subject is EDPM i feel its a waste of time i did CXC IT and looking on the course outline its completely useless i feel they should get the students assessed b HEART in there IT programs whether it be Data Operations, Web Designing, Office. Another is the wood work and metal work in complementing CXC get them accredited by HEART so if wen they finish high school if they don&#8217;t get into college they can move on int he HEART program or work and support them selves. Isnt that better than doing this structure change that Mr Holness proposed that student have to leave school at 18 and they have a next level of education three is enough build on the strong foundations. Students have changed the system need to mature to deal with the ever maturing world.</p>
<p>OPEN YOUR EYES STOP WASTING LIMITED RESOURCES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jaevion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaevion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;d funny how we all think as human. I wont comment much as a way of avoiding a debacle. But let me say that we fail to realise how we continue to perpetuate a culture of hopeless right across the nation. And the blame at all times is the subordinate and never the superior. If a class fails its always because they were not interested and never because the teacher lacked classroom management, devoted some serious time to teaching, or was even interested in the students learning and development. I have seen it happen time and time again. 

And the funny thing is all of us that have reached in the echelons of society forget how careless, lazy and uninterested in things but because someone gave us a chance. Why do you think first world countries continue to thrive? they encourage a culture of success right across the board. they try as best as possible to reduce the numbers of kids who drop out of school and even when you do drop out you are not cast away like they would adulterers in the biblical days ... come on let&#039;s get serious. 

Many of us never took exams serious until it was time for external exams ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;d funny how we all think as human. I wont comment much as a way of avoiding a debacle. But let me say that we fail to realise how we continue to perpetuate a culture of hopeless right across the nation. And the blame at all times is the subordinate and never the superior. If a class fails its always because they were not interested and never because the teacher lacked classroom management, devoted some serious time to teaching, or was even interested in the students learning and development. I have seen it happen time and time again. </p>
<p>And the funny thing is all of us that have reached in the echelons of society forget how careless, lazy and uninterested in things but because someone gave us a chance. Why do you think first world countries continue to thrive? they encourage a culture of success right across the board. they try as best as possible to reduce the numbers of kids who drop out of school and even when you do drop out you are not cast away like they would adulterers in the biblical days &#8230; come on let&#8217;s get serious. </p>
<p>Many of us never took exams serious until it was time for external exams &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: kram</title>
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		<dc:creator>kram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To jaevion

You seem to think that students should be free to do what they want in schools. Removing suspension and expulsion- what then is the alternative. Firing teachers that get 50% passes. What about the students that consistently get 50% and below. 

You seem to want to absolve students from any responsibilities. 

Why should a student that shows no or little interest in a subject, who attendance is very poor and whos grade is very poor be sent up for CXC. If I was a teacher I would not recommend any students who is clearly not ready for CXC.  

Suggest a viable alternative to moral guidance. 

What do you think about using your time wisely, so you don&#039;t have to be forced to study. Isn&#039;t studying for your own good. Why should one be forced to. 

Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To jaevion</p>
<p>You seem to think that students should be free to do what they want in schools. Removing suspension and expulsion- what then is the alternative. Firing teachers that get 50% passes. What about the students that consistently get 50% and below. </p>
<p>You seem to want to absolve students from any responsibilities. </p>
<p>Why should a student that shows no or little interest in a subject, who attendance is very poor and whos grade is very poor be sent up for CXC. If I was a teacher I would not recommend any students who is clearly not ready for CXC.  </p>
<p>Suggest a viable alternative to moral guidance. </p>
<p>What do you think about using your time wisely, so you don&#8217;t have to be forced to study. Isn&#8217;t studying for your own good. Why should one be forced to. </p>
<p>Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaevion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaevion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, why are we all so appalled when we hear stories of sex and violence at school .. I have completed high school long time and its nothing new to mean. Ever since 97 it was happening at my school. 

So let&#039;s really remove ourselves from this static position we are in when we hear of these things and face the damn reality. Thats why first world countries will forever be progressive ... they face the harsh realities of time and they just roll with it... instead we talk about the stupid ole days when a parent from up the road could beat your child and he/she dare not tell u in the evening if he/she hopes to be spared from a second round! 

How ridiculous! And let&#039;s realise that we cant go back there ... So time to move on into 2008. 

Our problems are a multiplicity of factors and none of it will ever be dealt with if we continue to hide the truth from ourselves, fail to listen to those affected, take this top notch approach to bandaid everything ... and - i wont continue to list all we have been doing wrong ...

But seriously, school seems to be the hot topic for 2008 ... textbooks removed a second time ... condoms in school, school sex tapes, corporal punishment banned in schools at all levels, teachers and principals to get police training .. lol .. 

what&#039;s next on the list of things to do for schools? 

hmmm .. let&#039;s see .. how about:
1) proper human resource strategies to motivate teachers (esp. the ones who just in the job to get a salary)
2) remove suspension and expulsion
3) remove teachers who continue year on year off to have even 50% passses
4) change the old guidance counsellors - who are guiding us on the sole basis of morals 
5) allow all students take every subject at high school - its not the teachers decision to decide who is ready for cxc (at least thats our excuse) - stop protecting school image 
6) introduce alternative learning in schools - skills, dj, music mixing, graphic design, cosmo, etc
7) compulsory after school hours for studying
8) performing arts programme in all schools
9) pump money into schools sports programmes 

Now thats something worthwhile doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, why are we all so appalled when we hear stories of sex and violence at school .. I have completed high school long time and its nothing new to mean. Ever since 97 it was happening at my school. </p>
<p>So let&#8217;s really remove ourselves from this static position we are in when we hear of these things and face the damn reality. Thats why first world countries will forever be progressive &#8230; they face the harsh realities of time and they just roll with it&#8230; instead we talk about the stupid ole days when a parent from up the road could beat your child and he/she dare not tell u in the evening if he/she hopes to be spared from a second round! </p>
<p>How ridiculous! And let&#8217;s realise that we cant go back there &#8230; So time to move on into 2008. </p>
<p>Our problems are a multiplicity of factors and none of it will ever be dealt with if we continue to hide the truth from ourselves, fail to listen to those affected, take this top notch approach to bandaid everything &#8230; and &#8211; i wont continue to list all we have been doing wrong &#8230;</p>
<p>But seriously, school seems to be the hot topic for 2008 &#8230; textbooks removed a second time &#8230; condoms in school, school sex tapes, corporal punishment banned in schools at all levels, teachers and principals to get police training .. lol .. </p>
<p>what&#8217;s next on the list of things to do for schools? </p>
<p>hmmm .. let&#8217;s see .. how about:<br />
1) proper human resource strategies to motivate teachers (esp. the ones who just in the job to get a salary)<br />
2) remove suspension and expulsion<br />
3) remove teachers who continue year on year off to have even 50% passses<br />
4) change the old guidance counsellors &#8211; who are guiding us on the sole basis of morals<br />
5) allow all students take every subject at high school &#8211; its not the teachers decision to decide who is ready for cxc (at least thats our excuse) &#8211; stop protecting school image<br />
6) introduce alternative learning in schools &#8211; skills, dj, music mixing, graphic design, cosmo, etc<br />
7) compulsory after school hours for studying<br />
 <img src='http://www.gordonswaby.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> performing arts programme in all schools<br />
9) pump money into schools sports programmes </p>
<p>Now thats something worthwhile doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Long Bench</title>
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		<dc:creator>Long Bench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed the &quot;prominent high school&quot; phrase immediately and had to stop myself from firing off a letter to the editor, which they wouldn&#039;t print anyway.  The double standard in the media -- shaming some schools and the students who attend them, while protecting others from the disgrace of being labelled as teggeregs -- has contributed to the way we perceive the violence in schools.  I really don&#039;t think that there is a dramatic increase in the number of whole families declaring war on teachers, etc.  Rather, the change has been steady and observable.  We just haven&#039;t been paying the right amount of attention.

Based on my reading of the news, what has changed is the frequency and the tone of the reportage; violence in schools adds a lovely flavor to the melodrama and overt sensationalism of crime coverage, thus ratcheting up the stress level and sense of victimization on the part of the teachers. 

The teachers themselves have also become more verbally abusive and antagonistic towards students, and disrespectful to the parents, both out of frustration as well as blatant disregard for people&#039;s feelings.  So, there&#039;s ill will on both sides.

But what is even more unconscionable is that the violence that has been going on in the schools for years, and which directly affects the students, has not prompted this kind of collective action on the part of the teachers until now.  The JTA et al. have been all too content to malign the students and to use dubious terms like &quot;lack of socialization&quot; to attribute what is happening as the fault of the parents and family environment.  I maintain that Jamaican teachers still don&#039;t know how to relate to students beyond the doctrinaire and authoritarian approach of &quot;I teach and you learn&quot;.  Challenging as the new school environment is, most teachers simply don&#039;t have the education, skills or training to relate to children as children.   Schools can&#039;t be everything for children; family and school have to work together.   I would love to find one, just one, example of a school that has taken on this concept wholesale and have tried to make it work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed the &#8220;prominent high school&#8221; phrase immediately and had to stop myself from firing off a letter to the editor, which they wouldn&#8217;t print anyway.  The double standard in the media &#8212; shaming some schools and the students who attend them, while protecting others from the disgrace of being labelled as teggeregs &#8212; has contributed to the way we perceive the violence in schools.  I really don&#8217;t think that there is a dramatic increase in the number of whole families declaring war on teachers, etc.  Rather, the change has been steady and observable.  We just haven&#8217;t been paying the right amount of attention.</p>
<p>Based on my reading of the news, what has changed is the frequency and the tone of the reportage; violence in schools adds a lovely flavor to the melodrama and overt sensationalism of crime coverage, thus ratcheting up the stress level and sense of victimization on the part of the teachers. </p>
<p>The teachers themselves have also become more verbally abusive and antagonistic towards students, and disrespectful to the parents, both out of frustration as well as blatant disregard for people&#8217;s feelings.  So, there&#8217;s ill will on both sides.</p>
<p>But what is even more unconscionable is that the violence that has been going on in the schools for years, and which directly affects the students, has not prompted this kind of collective action on the part of the teachers until now.  The JTA et al. have been all too content to malign the students and to use dubious terms like &#8220;lack of socialization&#8221; to attribute what is happening as the fault of the parents and family environment.  I maintain that Jamaican teachers still don&#8217;t know how to relate to students beyond the doctrinaire and authoritarian approach of &#8220;I teach and you learn&#8221;.  Challenging as the new school environment is, most teachers simply don&#8217;t have the education, skills or training to relate to children as children.   Schools can&#8217;t be everything for children; family and school have to work together.   I would love to find one, just one, example of a school that has taken on this concept wholesale and have tried to make it work.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Swaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Swaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 03:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess he&#039;s frustrated</description>
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		<title>By: yanique</title>
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		<dc:creator>yanique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 03:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree that Andrew Holeness is not taking the right step in solving this matter ............even though  as you&#039;ve mentioned disruptive students are aware of the consequences of their actions.........nevertheless should be given a second chance.....we are all human, we are not pefect.
It is not fair at all to blurt out the school&#039;s name like that an keep the prominent schools under the cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree that Andrew Holeness is not taking the right step in solving this matter &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;even though  as you&#8217;ve mentioned disruptive students are aware of the consequences of their actions&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;nevertheless should be given a second chance&#8230;..we are all human, we are not pefect.<br />
It is not fair at all to blurt out the school&#8217;s name like that an keep the prominent schools under the cover.</p>
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